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Groovy Ranch is now operational. In a little over five months, 3.4 acres of land went from accommodating winter wheat to accommodating a 1,528 square foot farmhouse and a 672 square foot garage.

We’ve been living in Groovy Ranch for a little over a week now. We don’t have any furniture yet—we’re still sitting on lawn chairs—but we love our new house. This is pretty much our dream home. And the only reason I hedge a little on branding Groovy Ranch our dream home is its location. If it were in Whitefish, Montana, overlooking the Rocky Mountains, it would unequivocably be our dream home.

With that said, I think it’s a good time to take stock of our first building experience—what we liked, what we didn’t, and what advice we would give to someone wanting to build a home. Here we go.

The Bad

Mrs. Groovy and I had a comical punch list when the build was over. Of the ten items we had, five pertained to caulking. Yes, the needed corrections were that piddly. The most egregious correction was replacing a spindle on the front porch railings. And even this was somewhat superfluous. A big knot on a spindle came dislodged and the edge of this spindle looked unsightly (at least to Mrs. Groovy’s eyes).

From the building perspective, there really wasn’t anything bad. Terry’s execution was near flawless. The only real screw up was committed by his exterior painters. They neglected to cover the fireplace vent before painting. Now we have a white fireplace vent rather than a silver fireplace vent. The horror. [Mrs. Groovy here: Terry called the painters on that screw up and they told him “this is how it’s done now.” Yeah right. Among the thousands of homes in our family’s community in Wake Forest, not one house has a painted fireplace vent. Well, at least it passed inspection. It might not have in another county.]

Design Faux Pas

On the design front there were just two things I wished I would have anticipated. Our hallway bathroom has two doors. One from the hallway and another from my bedroom. We did this because we wanted my bathroom to double as the guest bathroom. But because of the way the doors are situated, they open up into each other. It’s not the greatest design flaw one could be saddled with, but we will have to be vigilant about keeping both doors closed at all times. This will mitigate the number of future door smashes. [Mrs. Groovy here. You could simply keep the door from the hallway closed at all times unless we have visitors.]

The second design-related flaw I wish I would have anticipated also pertains to the hallway bathroom. The light switches for the bathroom are conveniently located by the door to my bedroom. There are no light switches by the hallway door, and this will be confusing for guests. A guest will naturally look for switches right by the door. Not finding switches in a natural place could very well mar a guest’s bathroom experience. Aaarrrggghhh!

Ill-Chosen Wood Floors

On the finishes front, Mrs. Groovy and I really only have one minor disappointment. For the hardwood floors, we decided to go with red oak rather than white oak to save a little money. It turns out, however, that red oak has reddish accents—surprise, surprise—and these accents don’t work well with all stains. We love the way the floors came out. But if we went with white oak instead, the weathered oak stain we used would had left the floor with a gray hue—which is precisely what we wanted. Weathered oak stain on red oak, however, left the floor with a orange hue. Again, not the worst thing in the world. But if we ever build again, we’ll make sure to use white oak. [We didn’t do enough homework on flooring. But I don’t see an orange hue on our floors. I just see floors that came out lighter than we anticipated. As much as I wanted the more weathered look, I think we lucked out here. The lighter floors really bring out the gray in the cabinets.]

Groovy Downsize Challenge

Way back in February of 2016, I came up with the downsize challenge. The goal was to move up to the the Wake Forest area, build a smaller house, and use the difference between what our Charlotte house sold for and the cost of building our new house to fund travel to Australia, Ecuador, and Thailand.

Well, we moved to the Wake Forest area and built a house that was 500 square feet smaller than our Charlotte house. So far so good. But the cost of Groovy Ranch was way more than the proceeds from our Charlotte house sale.

Groovy Ranch cost roughly $293,000 to build (that includes the cost of land as well). The proceeds from our Charlotte house sale were roughly $235,000. This means the result of our downsize challenge was -$58,000.

It’s safe to say that our downsize challenge was a colossal failure.

The Good

Oh, man, where do I begin? This build was more stress free than I ever could have imagined. In fact, it was so stress free, Mrs. Groovy and I tossed the fight-o-meter soon after the build began. We simply had nothing to fight about. (By the way, the final tally for the fight-o-meter was 8 wins, 3 losses, and 1 draw. A clear thrashing by Mrs. Groovy.)

Trust

Before we signed the contract with Terry, we asked him if he wanted to see our bank account. After all, he wasn’t asking for a down payment, and we thought he might want to make sure we had the money to build Groovy Ranch before he started working on it. But Terry said no. He trusted us. In fact, he didn’t ask for his first draw until the framing was complete—close to two months after the build had begun.

Trust went the other way as well. We had a good feeling about Terry from the start, and nothing during the build ever gave us a reason to question that initial assessment. Terry did what he said he was going to do, and Terry did it when he said he was going to do it. He was the consummate professional.

Price

Terry said the house and garage we wanted would cost $253,500, and that’s what it would have cost if we—and I stress we—hadn’t made any upgrades. There were no surprises. Groovy Ranch ended up costing $5,286 more than the contract price because we wanted a better quartz countertop for the kitchen, a vented rather than a ventless fireplace, a larger garage, gutters, and cement walkways.

Hands-On

Terry, his GC son Cam, and his lead carpenter Brian were on the job site practically every day. And if they weren’t supervising the subs and inspecting the quality of the building materials, they were building Groovy Ranch. I can’t tell you how comforting it was to pull up to the job site and see Terry, Cam, and Brian hammering and sawing away. It made communication between us and Terry remarkably easy and remarkably effective. Terry had ample opportunities to educate us on the building process. And we had ample opportunities to ask questions and relay concerns.

Quality

Terry is definitely an old-school builder. His building contract was just a few pages long and only cataloged the general finishes and features we desired—hardwood floors, tiled showers, quartz countertops, 16-seer heat pump, conditioned crawlspace, etc. In other words, the building contract was very short on specifics, and Terry had plenty of opportunities to go cheap. But he never did.

Here are just some of the instances in which he chose the more costly alternative:

  • All interior trim was wood, not MDF.
  • Exterior railings were wood, not PVC.
  • Rather than using standard roof sheathing, Terry used a roof sheathing with a built-in radiant barrier.
  • We only specified to Terry that we wanted a 16-seer heat pump. Terry, therefore, could have chosen a low-end brand such as Aire-Flo, DiamondAir, or Goodman. He installed a high-end Trane instead.
  • Rather than using foam board insulation in the crawlspace, Terry used closed-cell spray foam.
  • All the cabinet doors came with soft-close hinges, and all the cabinet drawers came with full-extension, soft-close slides.
  • The bedroom doors and the pocket door between the kitchen and the utility room were solid rather than hollow. This really helped mitigate noise penetration in those parts of the house where outside noise was least welcome.
  • We only told Terry we wanted a garage that was 24 feet by 28 feet. We gave him no other specifics than that. So he had free reign to build a basic garage. But that’s not Terry’s style. Our garage came with a metal roof, Hardie plank siding, nine-foot walls, three windows, an automatic garage-door opener, five four-foot lights, and a hundred amps of power.

Subs

Can’t say enough about Terry’s subs. Every one of his subs was professional and considerate. Not one got annoyed or bothered when we asked our stupid layperson questions. And they were all super accommodating—especially Marvin the plumber, Skeet the electrician, and Daniel the interior painter. Whenever we asked for something, they made it happen. Case in point. We got a six-foot down rod for our family room ceiling fan and that turned out to be too long. So we asked Skeet to replace it and told him we would supply the four-foot rod. Skeet, in turn, told us not to bother. He simply took down the rod, cut two feet off of it, and reassembled the ceiling fan.

Requests

Mrs. Groovy and I didn’t throw a lot of curve balls at Terry and his subs. But whenever we did, Terry and his subs hit them out of the ball park—and without any additional charges to our bill. The biggest curve ball by far was the cathedral ceilings on the kitchen side of the house. The plans called for a vaulted ceiling and Mrs. Groovy and I felt a cathedral ceiling would make more of a statement. Moreover, with a cathedral ceiling, we would be able to add some really cool rafter ties.

When we presented Terry with this request, he merely looked at the plans for a minute or so and said “no problem.” After that, the only thing we had to do was decide on the number of rafter ties. We chose six and the rest is history. The cathedral ceiling and the rafter ties are now my favorite parts of the house.

Quick aside. My, my, my, how age changes a man’s perspective. When I was a young man, girls, beer, and sports got me going. Now, as I’m rapidly approaching 60, comfortable shoes, Dairy Queen, and rafter ties get me going. Is that pathetic, or what?

Louisburg, NC

If you’re looking for bars, museums, and a lot of things to do, Louisburg isn’t the town for you.

If you’re looking for peace and quiet and lots of cows, Louisburg is where you belong.

Louisburg is a small farming community, about a half hour north of Wake Forest. According to Google, it has a population of 3,359. I guess Mrs. Groovy and I make it 3,361.

We’ve only being living in Louisburg for a couple of weeks now, and we love it. There’s just something about small-town America that we find compelling. Maybe it has to do with age. Mrs. Groovy and I are far removed from our bar-hopping days. A wild Saturday night for us is having a mini Blizzard at the Dairy Queen. (And, yes, Louisburg does have a Dairy Queen.) Or maybe it has to do with Mrs. Groovy and I growing up in Brooklyn and Long Island, respectively. Perhaps we’ve had our fill of noise, traffic, and rudeness. Whatever it is, the quiet, the lack of bustle, and the everybody-knows-everybody-Peyton-Place aspect of Louisburg make us happy.

Here are some pictures of Louisburg that I hope convey its small-town charm.

Mrs. Groovy spotted the below sign when we went to the gas vendor to pay our propane bill. Country folk in North Carolina don’t smoke nearly as much as they used to. But they still chew tobacco.

Here are some four-legged neighbors from just down the road.

Here are some more four-legged neighbors from just a little farther down the road.

And if you go still farther down the road, you’ll find plenty of old farmhouses. Here’s one for sale. Now, if we could contract Chip and Joanna to fix it up for us, we might buy it.

In downtown Louisburg you’ll find the old county jail. Wouldn’t it make a great AirBnB?

Downtown Louisburg hasn’t completely recovered from the Great Recession. It still has a number of empty store fronts. But downtown Louisburg has great bones and looks to be on the upswing. Two new restaurants are opening up in early 2019.

Compared to Wake Forest, Louisburg is a little lacking when it comes to greenways. In fact, it doesn’t have any greenways at all. But it does have a 1.5 mile hiking trail in Joyner Park. Check out the picture below from the trail. This stretch looked very squatchy to me.

And Louisburg has a decent bike path that goes for 2.5 miles. Here’s a stretch of the bike path that passes a lumber mill.

[Mrs. Groovy here. Louisburg ain’t for everyone, but we really love its rural, small-town vibe. Initially, when we decided to leave Charlotte, we wanted to settle in Wake Forest. But Wake Forest is no longer a sleepy little town. It’s burgeoning with people, everywhere you look another building or apartment complex is going up, and the traffic is getting out of hand. Wake Forest actually has bumper to bumper rush hour traffic now. Mr. Groovy and I figure we got a good ten years in Louisburg before things start feeling crowded.]

The Key to Having a Great Build

Mrs. Groovy and I had a wonderful building experience. The only real angst we had was over the design of Groovy Ranch. Once that was settled, things couldn’t have went smoother. And the reason for that is simple.

It’s all about the builder, baby. Choose the right one and your building experience will be a joy. Choose the wrong one and your building experience will land on most if not all of Dante’s nine circles of hell.

We chose the right builder.

If I had to describe Terry with a pithy moniker, I would describe him as a “how ’bout you” builder. “How ’bout you” is a country song from Eric Church, and in this song there’s a line that perfectly sums up Terry’s character.

“If I shake your hand, look you in the eye you can bet your ass, it’s gonna be the truth”

At the time we picked Terry, we were pretty confident that he was a “how ’bout you” builder. The ensuing build certainly proved that to be the case. Let’s now turn to the process of weeding out Terry from his competitors.

Finding a Great Builder

Okay, we won the building game because we had an amazing builder. But here’s the sixty-four thousand dollar question: How the heck does one find a great builder?

Do Your Homework

Well, the first thing you do is your homework. Here is the due diligence that Mrs. Groovy and I performed before we chose Terry.

Get Familiar with the Reputable Builders in Your Area

Our first objective was to find six to eight reputable builders who wanted to build Groovy Ranch. Here’s how we found those builders.

Check with the local builders association

This is a great way to discover the key builders in your area. Mrs. Groovy first became aware of Terry via this search option.

Check with the local building supply company

Rustic Building Supply Company is a classic good ol’ boy gathering place in Louisburg. Whenever I go there I see Rustic employees talking tools, materials, and building strategies with both professionals and laypeople alike. I swear it reminds me of Sam Drucker’s country store on Green Acres. Anyway, we asked the good ol’ boys of Rustic for builders they respected and they recommended several—two of which eventually made it to our bidding process, Terry and R&R Building.

Ask the people who handled your land purchase

Any realtor worth his or her salt knows decent builders. And so do real estate lawyers, land surveyors, and soil engineers. So we asked our realtors (Kaye and Jerry) and our soil engineer (Sarah) for recommendations. We got two builders from Kaye and Jerry and one builder from Sarah. Oddly enough, we only asked Sarah for a recommendation because we met her at our property one day to get her soil report. And wouldn’t you know it, the builder she recommended (Chuck) ended up making it to our bidding process.

Ask Three Builders to Submit Bids

After finding eight reputable builders and conducting eight informal interviews, mostly on the phone, we selected three builders for the bidding process. Why three? Good question. Part of the reason had to do with necessity. Two of the builders were based in Raleigh, and they would only consider building in Louisburg for a premium. In other words, choosing either one of them would have entailed paying an “inconvenient travel fee” on top of the normal house-building charges. But the main reason had to do with manageability. We didn’t think we had the bandwidth to 1) make sure six builders had their bids in by a certain date, and 2) do a proper analysis of six separate bids. Three bids seemed to strike a proper balance between the need to get the best price and the need to live in harmony with your spouse.

Oh, I have one more thing to keep in mind when culling your builders for the bidding process. We decided to be proximity-centric when choosing our builders. Why? Well, being students of human nature, we assumed that builders based in Louisburg would be more familiar with the concerns and priorities of the Building Department inspectors and the building of Groovy Ranch would go a lot smoother. So two of the builders we picked for the bid process were based in Louisburg (Terry and R&R), and the other builder we picked was based in the neighboring town of Youngsville (Chuck).

[Mrs. Groovy here. Our proximity-centric approach to culling builders for our bidding process appears to have been a wise decision. We eventually chose Terry to build our house—a Louisburg-based builder—and we didn’t have a single problem with the Building Department. Our build went remarkably smooth.]

Prepare a Spec Sheet so All Builders Are Bidding on the Same House

I ain’t gonna lie. Preparing a spec sheet for the bidding process is a giant pain in the ass. But it has to be done. If you don’t do it, you’ll have one builder submitting a bid based on Joe Schmoe windows and another builder submitting a bid based on Andersen windows. In order to compare apples to apples, you have to make sure your builders are all bidding on the same products, finishes, and materials. And this is where a spec sheet comes in. It forces each builder to submit a bid based on the home you want, not the home he or she thinks you want.

If you want to look at the spec sheet I created for Groovy Ranch, I included a download button below. I created it from a spec sheet template I found online. Where this template came from, I don’t remember. All I remember is that it was ridiculously detailed. I don’t think you need to tell the builder what nails you want him or her to use on the framing. So I removed most of the froth and kept the main components of a house.

After I formulated my modified-spec sheet, I then went online and researched what a mid-level spec would be for each component on my spec sheet. In other words, I wanted Groovy Ranch to be better than an entry-level home but well below the quality of a high-end home. Oak hardwood floors from Bruce would be fine. I didn’t need Australian Cypress flooring from some boutique mill.

It took me nearly 40 hours over the course of a week to complete my modified-spec sheet. And, frankly, there’s no way I would have been able to put a spec sheet together if it weren’t for the internet. What the hell would I have done if my first foray into home building occurred 25 years ago? Put together a spec sheet with the aid of the Yellow Pages and a Baby Bell? Yikes! That would have been painful.

If you want to survive the spec sheet process, keep in mind the following:

  1. Don’t go nuts. You can find plenty of really good mid-level stuff at Home Depot and Lowe’s. Start all your searches at either one of these stores.
  2. Do more research and provide more specificity on the parts of the home that matter the most to you. I, for instance, wasn’t overly concerned with the quality of our hardwood floors. I was perfectly happy with a mid-level Bruce product. I was, however, more concerned about the quality of our kitchen cabinets. So I devoted much more of my time to formulating my cabinet specs than my flooring specs.
  3. If you can’t find an actual product for a particular spec, don’t sweat it. Just provide a description of what you’re looking for. Builders will know what products will do justice to your wants.
  4. Finally, never forget what the spec sheet is for. It’s a tool to help you make a fair comparison of the bids you receive. It’s very unlikely that half the specs you specify will actually make it into your completed house. I had Bruce pre-finished oak flooring in my spec sheet. All the builders submitted a bid price based on that particular flooring. But when it came time to actually build Groovy Ranch, and we were looking for ways to cut costs, Terry said he could save us money by installing unfinished wood floors and staining them on site.

Download Groovy Ranch Specs

Run from Any Builder Who Says He or She Can Do Kitchen Cabinets for Less than $25,000

To a layperson’s brain, a kitchen cabinet shouldn’t be very expensive. After all, it’s basically a box of wood. But a kitchen cabinet is more than just a box of wood, of course. It’s hinges, slides, drawers, doors, knobs, trim, stain, and joinery hardy enough to withstand years of yanking, slamming, and pawing. Good cabinets aren’t cheap. And neither is the labor needed to install them correctly.

Run from Any Builder Who Submits a Bid that Is Substantially Below the Price Per Square Foot in Your Area

Prior to giving specs to our builders and asking for bids, we asked our realtor and our designer what would be a reasonable per square foot price for a nice home with nice finishes. They said a per square foot price between $115 and $125 would be reasonable. So that per square foot price range was our benchmark. If any builder came back with a per square foot price substantially below that benchmark, we would have discarded him with extreme prejudice. Fortunately, none of our builders submitted a bid with a ridiculously low per square foot price.

Ask to See the Homes Your Builders Are Currently Working On

All of our prospective builders were extremely proud of their work—and rightly so. Every house we toured, whether it was a starter home or a high-end dream home, looked great. There were absolutely no red flags. The work sites were orderly, the subs were diligently toiling away, and the workmanship—at least to our untutored eyes—looked superb.

Watch YouTube to Get a Rudimentary Understanding of the Build Process and Pick the Brains of Your Prospective Builders

I watched one YouTube channel in particular—Matt Risinger. Matt is a high-end builder who focuses on green technology and the science of building homes. He has over 600 videos on his channel that cover every aspect of the build process from pouring concrete peers to installing standing-seam metal roofs. I binge watched his videos on the main parts of a home (crawlspace, framing, sheathing, roof systems, insulation, window installation, etc.), and then asked our builders about their building styles and philosophies. Happily, our builders didn’t stray very far from Matt’s best practices.

Consider Experience

Experience is a great teacher. So it makes sense to give it some weight. Terry had the most experience by far. He’s been building for three decades. R&R and Chuck are relatively new to the residential building game. Both had around five years of home building experience. But both R&R and Chuck had been in the building trades for much longer than that. R&R’s owners cut their teeth as carpenters for nearly two decades before making the entrepreneurial leap. And Chuck cut his teeth as an electrician for over a decade before making his entrepreneurial leap.

Google Your Prospective Builders

It never hurts to run a builder’s name through Google and see if any red flags come up. We did this on all three builders and all three passed with flying colors.

If in Doubt, Get References from Your Builders and Talk to Their Previous Clients

I guess this should be a standard practice, but Mrs. Groovy and I didn’t venture down this path. We would have if we couldn’t make a decision. In other words, we were going to use the opinions of previous clients as a tie-breaker. But it never came to that. After about a month of racking our brains and interviewing our prospective builders on numerous occasions, a clear winner emerged—Terry. And the thing that most tipped the contest in Terry’s favor was the following.

Listen to Your Gut

Anytime we asked a Louisburgian about builders, he or she invariably mentioned Terry. It was freakin’ uncanny. The most amusing instance of this phenomenon occurred while we were talking to a young lady at a metal garage company. She was maybe a year or two out of high school and in the middle of eating a Lunchable. Anyway, we casually asked her if she knew any builders and she replied, “Terry Gilliam built my mamma’s house and it came out great. You can’t go wrong with Terry.”

Now, it did cross my mind that the entire town of Louisburg was in on some giant Funny Farm-like scam. But what are the odds of a whole town being that conniving?  And how much money does Terry have to pay off towns folk and bamboozle potential clients? No, we got the impression that Louisburgians were speaking from the heart when they heaped praise on Terry.

Quick aside. For those of you who aren’t familiar with the movie Funny Farm, Chevy Chase plays a writer who moves from the city to the country so he can write a novel. The town he moves to, however, is populated by a bunch of disagreeable misfits who make his life miserable. As a result, his novel and marriage crash and burn, and he has no choice but to leave. To leave, however, he must hoodwink a potential buyer into believing that the town is normal. So he bribes the townspeople into acting like the embodiment of Norman Rockwell’s America. Check out the clip below.

So what happened that finally tipped the scales in Terry’s favor?

Two things, the first being when we stopped by the home he was currently building. His son Jeremy was installing the kitchen cabinets when we arrived, and he took a break to give us a tour and answer any questions we might have.

When we were all done with the tour, and done with questions, Jeremy looked us in the eyes and said this:

“I’m not saying this because he’s my father, I’m saying it because he’s a great builder. If you let him build your house, you will not be disappointed.”

I didn’t say anything to Mrs. Groovy right away, but I believed Jeremy. I’m a pretty good judge of character, and he didn’t strike me as a bullshitter. It turns out that Mrs. Groovy felt the same way.

And the second thing that tipped things Terry’s way happened when we finally met with him to get his bid. He spent about a half hour going over the bid and suggesting ways to lower the cost without sacrificing quality. He then concluded his pitch, so to speak, by looking us in the eyes and saying the following:

“I want to build your home. And if you let me, I will build you a great home.”

Again, my gut said that Terry wasn’t a bullshitter. Happily, Mrs. Groovy felt the same (no need to give the fight-o-meter a workout), and within a few days we signed a contract with Terry so he could build Groovy Ranch.

Final Thoughts

Okay, groovy freedomist, that’s all I got. What say you? Are our thoughts on how to find a great builder worthwhile? Or did we rely too much on intuition and not enough on rational thought? Let me know what you think when you get a chance. Happy Hanukkah. Merry Christmas. Peace.

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  1. The distinction between a decent manufacturer and a terrible one can be colossal. The storm that hit NC this year made landfall over my folks home down there. They are not on the coast, but rather a couple of miles from the coast as the breeze blows. The houses on either sides of them, and numerous in their areas, were vigorously harmed with incomplete rooftop collapses and things like that. My folks lost 4 shingles and had a couple of screens harmed. The last were harmed by a fallen tree. A decent manufacturer can have the universe of an effect in a terrible second. They had a similiar experience with their assemble a couple of years back, and I am happy you did also.

  2. You must have come back just as I was taking off for the holidays, and I’m just now getting my bearings. Congrats on the new home, it does indeed sound like a dream home. And the town sounds like a great fit for you two as well.

    I’m really glad you detailed your process for finding a builder. This year we’re going to renovate our two baths and we could use some pointers on finding the right contractor.
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  3. Goodness this is so helpful I will bookmark it for when we build our own groovy house someday. I love those pictures of Louisburg, although I’m pretty sure that first house looks completely haunted! If Terry were based in Washington, we’d totally give him a call!

    1. Haha! Nailed it, Lily. That house does look haunted. And there are so many just like that house around here. Aspiring Chip and Joanna’s would have a field day around here. Hope all is well on the west coast. Cheers.

    1. Thanks, Deanna. I wonder what the town is using the old jail for? Knowing government, they’re probably using it for storage. I’m going to run the AirBnB idea by them and see what they say. That should be interesting. A crazy Noo Yawker moves onto a corner of the Westerfield farm and starts telling the town’s folk what they should do with their one historic landmark. Hope all is well on your end. Cheers.

  4. Congratulations on hitting a home run with your builder. Terry sounds like he really took pride in his workmanship.

    It is especially telling of his use of high end equipment and materials when he could have gone cheaper. And because of that he will have great word of mouth advertising because of your satisfaction with the job.

    I doubt I will ever build a home myself but all your suggestions are a wonderful resource for those who do.

    Enjoy groovy farm. You deserve it
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    1. Thank you, sir. I know it sounds crazy, but at least once a week Mrs. Groovy and I respectively pinch ourselves. We really lucked out. And what really impressed us about Terry were his subs. They were good at what they did, and they had been doing work for Terry for literally decades. And all the subs knew each other, and they all worked well together. It was really fun to watch such a well-oiled machine. Thanks for stopping by, my friend. Always a pleasure.

    1. Haha! Totally agree, Tonya. Small town living isn’t for everybody. In my humble opinion, it’s definitely an older person’s game. But Louisburg is a great place to visit. And if you ever do decide to visit Groovy Ranch, I swear Mrs. Groovy and I won’t entertain you by doing some cow tipping. Hope 2019 turns out to be a kick-ass year for you. Cheers.

  5. The difference between a good builder and a bad one can be huge. The hurricane that hit NC this year made landfall over my parents home down there. They are not on the coast, but only a few miles from the coast as the wind blows. The houses on either sides of them, and many in their neighborhoods, were heavily damaged with partial roof cave ins and things like that. My parents lost 4 shingles and had a few screens damaged. The latter were damaged by a fallen tree. A good builder can make the world of a difference in a bad moment. They had a similiar experience with their build a few years back, and I am glad you did as well.

    1. “The difference between a good builder and a bad one can be huge.”

      So true, my friend. That’s why Mrs. Groovy and I really concentrated on getting the specs right for the foundation, the framing, and the roof. We figured if we contracted for quality foundation, framing, and roofing materials, and our builder executed those aspects of the build with aplomb, we’d be in pretty good shape. Glad your parents survived the hurricane season with no issues. A lot of builders ended up with eggs on their faces after the hurricanes hit. The guy who built your parents’ home has a right to be proud. Thanks for stopping by, my friend. Always a pleasure hearing from you. Cheers.

  6. that’s an impressive and comprehensive report. kudos to taking the effort to do it right. the contractor who did our roof knew all the inspectors and that can be a really big deal. who knows if we’ll ever get around the building a place from scratch but we might want to take that route in retirement, complete with ramps and grab bars for when we’re gumming our food and wearing adult diapers. if it comes to that we won’t hire a bullshitter.

    enjoy your holidays, groovy freedomists!
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    1. Oh, man, I love it. We forgot all about ramps and grab bars. And the weird thing is, we were conscious of our bodies becoming increasingly frail. That’s why we built a one-story house, for heaven’s sake! But didn’t even discuss things like towel bars during the build. Yeah, it’s hard to believe, but we’re only a couple of decades from gumming food and adult diapers. Love the way your mind works, my friend. All the best in 2019. Cheers.

  7. Thrilled to hear you are moved in, lack of furniture be damned. What a wonderful tribute to Terry. May we have such good fortune if and when we do our next maintenance.

    Warm holiday wishes, my friends!

    CD

    1. Thank you, CD. Sorry for the late reply. Hope all is well on your end. And hope you and your family have a spectacular 2019. Cheers.

    1. Haha! Louisburg doesn’t even have a hospital, never mind a town-therapist. No, whenever the painted fireplace vent gets me down, I’ll have to travel to Wake Forest for therapy. Thanks for stopping by, my friend. You never fail to make me laugh. Cheers.

  8. Having gone through the same exercise myself recently, your groovy guide to choosing a builder is spot on! That gut feel is so important, and was ultimately how we chose our builder over another (with both being very qualified). He even threw my husband’s crass humor back at him without missing a beat. Last time we visited the home site (we live 300 miles away), Builder Phil was on a bulldozer spreading gravel on our driveway. Gotta love that.

    Love your spec book, too – I had to LOL – we chose the exact same vanity for our hall bathroom! We used it in a flip house we did earlier this year too, and it looked great.

    Hope your holidays in your new house are great! Can’t wait to see pictures!
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    1. Thank you, Jennette. And thank you for the build update. It sounds like Builder Phil is a “how ’bout you” builder too. That’s got to make sleeping at night a lot easier. My parents found a similar builder years ago when they built a vacation cottage in Pennsylvania. My parents maybe made it out to the site a couple of times during the build. And, yet, despite minimal oversight, the builder delivered a solid home. My parents had it for nearly 20 years and had no problems with it beyond the standard maintenance issues that come with all homes. Anyway, Groovy Ranch is humming along. No issues. Once we get it 80 percent furnished will do a walk-through of it and post it on YouTube. Hope all is well in your neck of the words. Talk to you soon. Cheers.

    1. Thanks, Amy. Yes, it really was a wonderful building experience. No surprises, no building department issues, no shoddy materials, no shoddy work–Terry and his subs did a really solid job. You know you’ve had a great build when your punch list for the builder amounts to ten piddly items and half of those piddly items are caulk related. Thanks for stopping by, Amy. Always a pleasure hearing from you.

  9. I built my 2200 sf 3br 2.5 bath full unfinished basement home with screen porch and 24×28 garage in 2002. My brother was my builder and was very hands on. We ended up with a good quality home and no real harm to the relationship with my brother. It took about a year and I had to push for communication but things turned out pretty good. Cost was just under $300,000 including lot in small town Ohio. Value has probably only caught up to and exceeded cost in the last couple of years. It was not a way to make money but did result in a good place to live for all these years. I kept the house thru divorce and remarriage, and will have it paid off (for the 2nd time) in a few months. Congratulations on you build experience and I hope you have much enjoyment in your home.

    1. Wow, Jeff. That’s a lot of house for $300K. Basements aren’t big in North Carolina. That’s one of the few things I miss from New York. Most homes around me are on a slab foundation. We wanted to do a conditioned crawl space and were very surprised that all the builders we were considering had done them. I don’t exactly know the science, but my cousin (an architect) and a lot of building-science YouTubers swear by them. They say it’s the only way to stop mold from developing in the crawl space. Anyway, we went with the conditioned crawl space and haven’t had any issues so far. We’ll see what the crawl space looks like when I inspect this spring. Glad the Ohio build worked out. Building is never easy, even when a family member is the builder. Hope all is well on your end, my friend. Talk to you soon. Cheers.

  10. Congrats and great roundup. Building is no bueno and I am glad we pulled out of ours, particularly with the upcoming move. Still it seems like yours went off without a hitch. For anyone building, please follow the groovy guide above. It is super important to get the right crew from the start.

    1. Thanks, Triple-D. We really lucked out. We did our homework, but went with our guts. And this time, our guts didn’t let us down. I think for a rural builder, reputation is vital. Everyone knows everyone else and people aren’t afraid to call out or shit on a charlatan. Let me know when you get settled in the Volunteer State. Mrs. Groovy and I would love to visit. Cheers, my friend.

  11. I love that “Funny Farm” clip. Now that you’ve moved in, I suppose the town folk can stop the charade and start acting “normal”, huh?

    We added on to our house years back and loved the builder. It was tricky because we only hired him for foundation, framing and roofing, doing the rest of the job ourselves. He was a gem and it required a lot of the skills you list to weed through the possibilities. In the end, that gut feeling is really important.

    Congratulations on moving in. I’m envious of your fireplace. Some day we are going to splurge for an insert. That looks really cool. I mean…

    1. Hey, Susan. Thank you! There’s at least one Funny Farm fan out there. It’s definitely one of those under-the-radar movies. I put it in the Waiting for Guffman genre of movies. Great movies that nobody has ever heard of. Anyway, glad you had a successful build as well. Choosing a builder that would only be willing to build the shell must have been hard. Perhaps you can write a post about it? And, yes, the fireplace is really cool. Moreover, since it’s been about 30 degrees every day for the past couple of weeks, it’s been getting a real good workout. Thank for stopping by, my friend. Cheers.

  12. So happy that y’all get to celebrate your first holidays in Groovy Ranch! I cannot wait to see it someday. Thanks for sharing your experience and wisdom. I’ve bookmarked it for “someday” when we get the land and dream home of our own. 🙂 Merry christma-kwanz-hannuka-festivus and a Happy new Year!
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    1. Hey, BE. Hope all is well in your neck of Raleigh. Groovy Ranch is coming along. We almost have enough furniture now to entertain. Expect an invitation shortly.

  13. I am problem solver so let me handle this. First, you get someone to print out a human size groovy cat poster then you cover the hallway bathroom door with that. Problem solved.

    And nevermind traveling to Australia, I heard that there is a chance that its existence is a huge conspiracy 😉

    PS: I love both the old farmhouse and the jail building. Opportunity is in the air 🙂
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      1. Thanks! I knew it. Finally, the truth is out there. From a point of view, it is obvious. Just look at those ridiculous animals like platypus and Tasmanian devil. These cannot be real…

    1. Haha! I love the way your mind works, Mr. HCF. What a great solution! And we’re screwed if Australia doesn’t exist. We booked the flight and we’re supposedly landing in Sydney.

  14. Congrats on the great build. Compared to our build, you had much better luck, or were much smarter in selecting your builder. In 2002, my wife and I selected a builder. While he was not “the builder from Hell”, he was a builder who primarily built spec houses. I figured that out fairly quickly, and then had to be onsite virtually every day to review, eyeball and measure what had been done, to insure that it was good quality materials and work, in other words, what we were paying for. In summary, I would never hire him again, and I would never recommend him. Sounds like Terry was a gem !

    1. My cousin is an architect and my brother-in-law was a carpenter in a NYC union. We knew Terry was a quality builder, but my brother-in-law and cousin confirmed it. They both looked the house over during the framing and rough-in stages of the build, and both were impressed. My brother-in-law even said that when the next hurricane hits our corner of North Carolina, he and my sister were going to take refuge in Groovy Ranch. Yeah, we really lucked out. Sorry to hear you had to watch your builder like a hawk. All too often spec builders are better at speed than quality. Our previous house was a spec home. The longer we stayed in, the more we discovered the shoddy work. Sad.

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